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The Right Opinion: The Dramatic Decay Of DanPlan - End Of An Animated Era | TRO
0:00 - Intro
7:32 - Actually
15:31 - Sharing Is Caring
25:33 - Ownership
37:07 - The Response
48:14 - Dissonance
1:00:20 - Small Change
1:11:47 - The Animators
1:28:05 - Unanswered Questions
1:36:05 - The Answers
Now, when someone reached out to me about this situation, I will admit, I was not familiar with DanPlan, and in spite of their approximately 2 million strong fanbase, many of my friends were not familiar with their content either, so I sat down and watched a lot of DanPlan. Now I think I have a decent grasp, I will briefly summarise their origins and content, just so people have a grip on how they created such a significant following.
DanPlan as a channel was established in July 2014 by their titular creators: Daniel, and his friend Hosuh, with the first upload coming soon after.
This was the first instalment of their “By the way” series, the video consisted of a slightly crudely drawn character discussing a story told by his youth pastor. Now, the audio could be better, and this video only appears to include Dan himself, but you can definitely see the origins of a great channel in the making, a lot of Hosuh’s creative illustrations enhance Dan’s stories on a comedic basis, and Dan’s outgoing nature makes him an effective storyteller, there was definitely potential here.
However, this series didn’t receive much attention following its initial upload. Animation was in a bit of a lull at that point, and thus it was probably not worth putting too many eggs in that basket. After this DanPlan spent just under a couple years dedicated to gaming content, which was much more popular at the time. These gaming videos weren’t the most unique, though they were often presented more like highlight reels, and used character heads to represent different people talking. Dan was the consistent host of these videos, gaming with a varying roster of guests, such as Anna, Billy, Jay, and of course, Hosuh. However, there was one more character to introduce to this story, that person goes by the name of Stephen.
Stephen was introduced on the 5th of September, 2015, in the upload “Yamete, Titan Senpai”, in which he, and of course, Dan, and Hosuh, played the Attack On Titan tribute game. Like Hosuh, and many of their other friends, they were acquainted through school and college, and for these comrades, this was just a regular gaming session which happened to be uploaded onto ESwomen. Stephen was not one of the original members, but he quickly became a recurring guest on the channel as other individuals began to appear less. However, these gaming videos, although enjoyable for those who participated, didn’t set the channel on fire, gaining DanPlan only 50 subscribers. So come May 2016, the “By The Way” series was resumed, but this time, with a slightly different format. ..
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The Right Opinion
The Right Opinion Hace un mes
*CREDITS BELOW* Interesting video this one, not sure how I feel but hope you guys enjoy. I had some audio issues (crackling) around time of recording but I think I've sorted them now. I must also apologise to Ann for calling her Anna. They are not the same and I'm sorry for only noticing it now. (Also thanks to anyone who pointed out a rendering error at 1:33:56, I have since edited it out though it may take a bit to process) With special thanks to: Antwan: Daft Pina: EDITING CREDITS/REFERENCES BELOW: Check out the editors: - MajorLeagueGinger: - Onion: - Jako: - Mr Dubz: - Nate: - Logan: - Chloe: - Peter Day: - Kringeh: - Rasmus T: Post-Editing: - Logan: Artist Credits (if your art appears here please email me): - Special thanks to my Patrons: a vdl, Low60, Mac Maunder, Jade Rose, ColossalKiwi, Ash Black, Darren (Barcrest Plays), Light, Marc, RistrettoEva, WilliamThatch, Adam VIllareal, Ashley Butts, Adam Goetz, Bryan Langley, cloudfruit, Connor, Divinireigns, Miru Kado, Neo, Brandon, Emily Yoder, Megan McCallion, Mikey K, Miru Kado, Neo, Nipple Man, Ristretto Eva, Michael, Shane Reese, Mama Fujo, Yuliya Terekh, Spoonie The Rogue, Natasha Gray, Bruhreallysnapped, Darren Barcrest Plays, Ellie, Nassim J, Spoonie the Rogue, Gravidea, Lena Zhivun, Valerie B, Shelby Schulze, Kie, Austin Clothier, Bob Jazzypoo, Emily Jane Willems, Philip Wesolowski, Neuwwington, MuglyfuglyThug, Nico Mendoza, Sydney Plasky, puking dog, Isabelle Pond, Jacob Matthews, saberfang, Casual User, Ella Elric, Jennifer Stachuska, Maria Diamantoukos, Seth, YarnWitch, York, Paulina Joensen, Julia Fesst, Ammene, Leslie Miller, Ambros, Emma Hinniger, Hillary Dryer, Kathryn M Sorroche, Mirthe, triangulous, darkestweb, Letichia, Sarcastalshisss, SnowFreak, Casey Dickinson, Christian Lincoln, Rinnie, K., Linkin, Logan, Psycho Alchemist, Emily Ward, CaptainBunnincula, Megan Erwin, Jonas Picinich, Ryanna, Mireli, Floral, Margrethe, 10$+ Patrons: Ashley Butts, Elizabeth Looby, orkfighta, The Derbinator, Eduardo Pedrero, unknown_hat, dr_snuff, Jenn Sulana, Ella Daniels, Chris F, Adam Granger, Poofy, Tepi, ジュリアン, Hunter, Amanda, Mattias Kronsten Nygren, Bénédict Knecht, ayro grego, Jessica Silansky, Kasi, Kezzstar24, naoh123, Fayrith, David Alejandro Moreno, Heisenberg White, Kaiser, MuglyfuglyThug, lordpikachu96, Emma Hinnige, True Joker, Shiro Chigo, Mark Sanschargrin, Kazza Jackson, B_More_Cool_J Special Thanks to My 50 Dollar Patreons: somehulabaloo, Caroline, Hypercube, Amanda Very special thanks to my 100 dollar Patreons: Brandon, Christopher Karas, Yesenia Ramirez Twitter: Facebook: Discord: Instagram: References:
Aiden Quintana
Aiden Quintana Hace 6 horas
100th reply
Keldawott !
Keldawott ! Hace 7 horas
The Plague Man
The Plague Man Hace 13 horas
Puppet Tro Puppet Tro.
Stan Cosmin
Stan Cosmin Hace 2 días
@Nebby Thats kinda the point with the eye,it was drawn like this,hope you understand!
The Blue Phoenix: Captain Gamer
The Blue Phoenix: Captain Gamer Hace 6 días
Those are a lot of words
Nataly Olivo Diaz
Nataly Olivo Diaz Hace 2 horas
Thanks for telling me because I subscribe to DanPlan yesterday :
Marshian Hace 2 horas
Damn, Daniel...
Pizzachu 21
Pizzachu 21 Hace 2 horas
we need more finger puppet TRO
CocoPuff Hace 3 horas
I honestly only watched DanPlan for Stephen
Silent Night
Silent Night Hace 4 horas
Man 2020 is awful
Sub To Pewds
Sub To Pewds Hace 7 horas
I just can't wait for Stephen to have a successful channel and make dan regret his actions
Jami Reign
Jami Reign Hace 8 horas
It’s hard to except that the channel will never be the same. Their new channels just don’t hit the same, I’m sad it’s over.
Savage Savarah
Savage Savarah Hace 8 horas
Honestly, I feel bad for Hosuh and Steven. And all of the animators who worked so hard. It's really sad. Steven was one of the reasons I loved the channel so much and found it so funny.
Gibus // Martwy
Gibus // Martwy Hace 9 horas
whichever way you look, you see a friendship and business falling apart simultaneously.
ItsAMeMario Hace 9 horas
This is definitely ESwomen's fault I'm kidding It was money/power that made everyone change, I'm not gonna say Dan because I haven't watched the channel for a while now and I have no idea what happened.
Luquinha67 Subscribe
Luquinha67 Subscribe Hace 11 horas
I just feel bad that Stephen left but I understand but I wish Dan saw Stephen's attempt to show that it wasn't about the company it was about the friendship but Dan didn't care. It just sucks because I loved the btw series but mostly because Stephen was there to spice things up.
Jääkaappi Hace 12 horas
I'm very late but If I were Dan I would say Sorry that money got between us and our good memories and that's it :)
Meapkeu Hace 12 horas
Wait, when Hosuh is back from the military, will he be going to Dan or Stevens channel? Or both?
TheGasPowered JohnnyJohn
TheGasPowered JohnnyJohn Hace 13 horas
made me pretty sad to watch it all happen, i watched from wehn they started, but after the controversy, i just cant watch it anymore...
Pheonix boi
Pheonix boi Hace 13 horas
This is actually sad my heart broke #bringDanPlanback 😞
Anthern Hace 13 horas
Hosuh was such an innocent soul, Steven was kept the Channel alive with his words which makes it very dark yet funny in some twisted way, Dan ran the Channel but he was getting greedier as time went on. He then screwed up by labeling Steven as unimportant and then it went downhill from there because he didnt do what made his friends happy.
Alpaca Danny
Alpaca Danny Hace 17 horas
I think we can see on danplan that Stephan left with 1m viewers
Boyz Play
Boyz Play Hace 17 horas
I found a video where hossa was being roasted or it was someone that sounded like hossa and he was roasted by 404 a rapping yt
MAXRANIEL Hace 19 horas
TRO deserves way more subscribers for how much work and details he puts in his videos
Riley Stoudt
Riley Stoudt Hace 19 horas
Woah, I want an anime drawing of me
yola nola
yola nola Hace 20 horas
Holy shit I’m 7 minutes In and just realized that that was the intro dam this vid is loooong
Dio Sánchez
Dio Sánchez Hace 21 un hora
Lol, never liked Dan tbh😂 I really liked Stephen, Hosuh and Jay~ even the random extras. Dan was just there on the videos as a narrator. Yeah, he got the ideas but the others gave those ideas life.
Old Smokey
Old Smokey Hace 21 un hora
Arguing the artists are subcontractors, this is not a new tactic actually. I'm not sure if other youtubers do it, however it is an actual tactic in order to lower pricing on jobs that some positions will be listed as a "sub contractor" position, to clarify sub contractors can work up to full time hours (regularly 40 hours a week or more) or longer, are not required to be given breaks, are not required to be compensated for breaks, are not generally given time off (time off is considered time in between jobs since sub contracting is "I choose to do this job, and then I pick another when I need more money) and they're not provided benefits. They're basically a skilled tradesman who is brought on to do a set job and once it is complete they are usually let go. However with how the artists here are working the work type they're doing is actually as stated akin to a full time position. They're working 40 plus hours a week I'm sure (animation is very time consuming) and completing multiple projects on a regular basis. Yes you aren't forcing them to sign documentation to work for you however the work is regular enough some should be brought on as proper employees, paid a salary and given things like benefits and time off. All experience regarding the information I provide here is from my brief stint in the world of subcontracting locally. I do live in the states and there is a possibility Canada or other countries may view the system differently. Just my two cents
normanderi Hace 22 horas
Imo where hosuh is, is the person in the right, is the only one i know for what ive seen, i can trust, maybe im wrong niether i know him really, but he always has been kind and im pretty sure he wont side with the one doing the wrong thing to others
Aaron Stoner
Aaron Stoner Hace 23 horas
It seems a little ironic that some of the first videos on Danplan's main page are "Are you a Psychopath" and "are you a terrible person."
Joice Reis
Joice Reis Hace 23 horas
I'm biased in that situation because I trust Husuh opinion the most and the fact that he said that about Dan and still friends with Stephen and even featured in his channel put me closer to accept Stephen's side, that and Jays video that align with Stephen's. I also don't believe that Dan is a bad person, but that gave flashbacks of bad employees I had in the past.
M L Hace un día
I just feel bad for Hosuh... I already stopped regularly watching, but with Dan the only person left on the channel until Hosuh gets back and Stephen as my favourite character...
Kaela-Mae Rome
Kaela-Mae Rome Hace un día
Don’t contractors get paid AFTER the finished job. Not FOR the finished job. They still should have an hourly rate (which, as far as I’m aware from my work, is a higher hourly rate than the full-time workers).
random person
random person Hace un día
no one is wrong more than the other actually both shoulld see this video lol
Joice Reis
Joice Reis Hace un día
I used to love watching Danplan, I didn't know something had happened with the channel
Brendel OBrien
Brendel OBrien Hace un día
The only reason I stuck around the channel was because of Stephen
Blossom Blue
Blossom Blue Hace un día
This all points to Dan
christinaa Hace un día
At first I read "Dan and Phil" instead of DanPlan and I FREAKED OUT
Mouse.SP.AL Hace un día
I think Hosuh's comment in the end about Dan changing from high school to current was telling, but for the opposite reason. In high school and prior, people are rewarded for following rules to a binary point. If you follow the rules you get rewarded or are not punished, if you break them there are set consequences. Funny thing is after high school, that begins to change. Things aren't set in stone and gray bleeds into the world, and the loss of one's naivety in a black and white world is what I consider to be a mark of the transition from a teenager to an adult. Rules are bent, exceptions are made, and so on. Perhaps it wasn't Dan that changed, but everyone else around him. Everyone else began to grow up and realize that the world is more complicated than yes or no. I can see from Dan's perspective how when Stephen said he only wanted to do ESwomen as a hobby meant that there was no reason to give him any ownership in the channel. Stephen clearly said no, he did not want more responsibility, thus he would not be given any more money or credit. This can also be seen when Dan forced a cut of the revenue on to Hosuh. Hosuh didn't want the pay, but to Dan in his black and white world, Hosuh deserved it as a founding partner and was unwilling to bend what he saw as a rule. From the video Dan seems to have made by definition the "right moves". For example he checked in on animators and negotiated with them if there was a discrepancy. The problem is that Dan's reasoning behind it all seemed transactional to me. It checked a box saying that, if I gave the animators room to talk to me, then I have done what a reasonable person would have and thus I am a reasonable person. It lacked any understanding or empathy of a more complex situation and made me question if it was Dan that had actually stayed the same from high school, but everyone around him had grown.
Peter Barron
Peter Barron Hace un día
It sounds like people who work on yachts at 38:10 I worked on a boat for 2 years and this is what it was like.
Seachick Hace un día
This hits different when you watch their first impressions video and remember how Hosuh said he liked Dan because he was "just a good person." I never ever saw this coming.
Syed muhammad Ahmed
Syed muhammad Ahmed Hace un día
The only thing i am shook by is the fact that hosah had to do MILITARY service
Mayra Sanchez
Mayra Sanchez Hace un día
the dislikes on this video are the danplan stands
Colin Williams
Colin Williams Hace un día
Dan is like the “Joey Drew” of this universe (also ty for this video this helps me understand this “drama”)
Absolute Idiot
Absolute Idiot Hace un día
You know things are bad when a terrible character from a game is an accurate representation of you.
Emo alpha wolf
Emo alpha wolf Hace un día
I really only watched danplan for hosuh and Steven hell I used to think Stevens name was dan because you know most interesting person probably has the name on it right nope dan isn’t really even one of the interesting characters like hosuh is pure and try’s to stop conflict Steven has a whole bag of stuff to pick from and dan is just kinda there
かば Hace un día
i just wish they would be able to fix their friendship. In the video, By the way, remember when we first met, they sound good friends before youtube. It's sad to see good "old" friends like this.
Humungusfungus Hace un día
Bro Stephen is my favourite of the trio and to hear this enrages me
SwiFTx Hace un día
ZERO of my views are for Dan. ALL of them are for Stephen, Hosuh, Jay, Anna, and anyone else who's been on DanPlan. Dan by himself just has not much of a real, unique personality. That's why after Stephen left and effectively everyone else I had seen on the channel except for Hosuh, I unsubbed and stopped watching. Dan is honestly just the host. Everyone else on the channel is what makes it "DanPlan". That's my opinion.
Andrew Richter
Andrew Richter Hace 2 días
I love your videos you dont actually pick a side or justify people because you know them or like them, you actually hear both sides and use actual logic to explain the situation. Keep it up man you've earned a subscriber
Guillermo Peña
Guillermo Peña Hace 2 días
It really feels like this whole thing could have been resolved by giving Stephen the shares he wanted if he took editing duties. He got a better pay like he wanted and Dan wouldn't have a way to say he wasn't doing work. Stephen asked what he could do to get the shares, tell him to edit and that's it. This just goes to show how greed and mismanagement can ruin a business and friendships. I understand Dan's argument, Stephen was bringing a lot of views but he was an actor while Dan and Housa did the same work plus other things. But, Stephen's talent was worth waaaay more than Dan thought. If he wants more shares, he deserved them but if you think he needs to do more to get more, give him more responsibilities for those shares. If Housa was an animator, Dan was in charge of management and scripts, give Stephen editing and everyone is happy. Hell, if Stephen didn't see youtube as more than a hoobie, tell him that, if you want more money we need you to treat this as a job.
The Peepee Poopoo Man
The Peepee Poopoo Man Hace 2 días
Stephen:"how many views come from me" Dan: "idk lol" Well the chanel went from getting 1-3 million views to barely reaching view 100s of thousands
sokyu no
sokyu no Hace 2 días
“Because I am ‘the boss’” yes you are the channel is named after you😐
sokyu no
sokyu no Hace 2 días
Dan sounds very manipulative
sokyu no
sokyu no Hace 2 días
It’s not like dan is losing that much money from paying Stephen after he quit
sokyu no
sokyu no Hace 2 días
Dan prolly knew that Stephen brought in money which is why he could bring him on trips because he knew it would make him more money then if he didn’t,, or he still would’ve made a profit but Stephen brings bigger bucks
sokyu no
sokyu no Hace 2 días
Haha dan be like: make a channel I pay you in views Most people be like: I use ESwomen to watch channel i don’t want to make channel
sokyu no
sokyu no Hace 2 días
I thought dan was pretty boring and lame,, he really needed everyone else
chosenbap Hace 2 días
and this, kids, is why you unionize
Confused infant
Confused infant Hace 2 días
Stephen leaving caused them to go from around 2 million views per video to barely getting 200k. That shows how much Stephen was worth, that shows how many views were gained by Stephen. Obviously those 2 million views weren’t just from Stephen but they were from how the group interacted, Stephen was a main part of that, clearly without Stephen there is no group. The fact that Daniel didn’t understand that without Stephens personality the channel would fall apart is insane to me.
Pan Baron
Pan Baron Hace 2 días
The views dropped from over 1 mil to about 200 - 300 k views after stephen left. Yeah... Stephen is just an employee...
ฅYuki_Snowzฅ Hace 2 días
The money is getting to Dans head.. If you actually see this comment, you are amazing.
Yan Xishan 閻錫山
Yan Xishan 閻錫山 Hace 2 días
thanks! I'm not, though
Saxon Pouncey
Saxon Pouncey Hace 2 días
So who what’s right or wrong
name less
name less Hace 2 días
Ment to say its really sad, now i just think, great editing style dude.
quixxen Hace 2 días
i like the ownership segment with the hands lol
quixxen Hace 2 días
20:57 I LOVE his confidence man
Abel Halim
Abel Halim Hace 2 días
Everything good has an end
Sudden Death
Sudden Death Hace 2 días
*Sees **5:30** and starts smilling* no stop you cant go back
name less
name less Hace 2 días
Im so sad what the channle has become tbh
John Doe
John Doe Hace 2 días
Compared to the Response video to Rags during the Last Jedi Fallout, this video flowed much better and is very easily digestible. Even though I personally dislike some points in the individual videos beaning discussed revealed later on when it was convenient to the point being made, your balanced takes on how the situation unfolded was interesting to watch. I will thank you for providing 1:51:39 of content to watch. I will thank your amazing editors for the wonderful job on the video. I will admit that you have improved considerable over the years. I hope you and your team continue to provide excellent content and that your channel continues to grow. Aim for 1 mil subscribers by 2021. Best of wishes and good luck.🖖👍
Audrey Tantra P
Audrey Tantra P Hace 2 días
“Im a bad person if im a bad person.” “And im a good person if im a good person.” Ah yes. The floor is made out of floor.
Eduardo Torres
Eduardo Torres Hace 2 días
Before everyone left, Danplan was getting over a million views per upload now he barely gets 200k
Nick Harris
Nick Harris Hace 2 días
Some of the times in the vid I thought he was about to rap
mummykiller opgangster
mummykiller opgangster Hace 3 días
the channel is almost dead now i watched a month before this and i stopped after it just wasnt the same without stephen there
Rivo Sarmento
Rivo Sarmento Hace 3 días
Hey man, new to the channel, loving your content. If I can make a suggestion, there's a story that deserves to be told about the recent video made by Cryaotic.
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