Spider-Man Leaves the MCU - Who's to Blame: Sony or Disney?

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Spider-Man Leaves the MCU - Who's to Blame: Sony or Disney?
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Gabriel Blume
Gabriel Blume Hace 3 meses
Sony letting Disney co financing is something Sony can't let happen. Because if you let someone become a co financier, they then have ownership over the content and characters. Disney becoming a co financier over Spider-Man movies and Spider-Man spin off movies, it takes Sony's controlling interest over their most valuable franchise away from them. Like if Sony wanted to use any characters from the spider-man movies and put them in their spin off movies, Disney could say no and Sony couldn't do anything, or Disney could cancel Sony's Spider-Man spin off movies and there's nothing Sony could do. Because Disney wanting to co finance Spider-Man movies and spin off movies, they were playing the long game, like they would get ownership over the characters, so if they wanted to, Disney could take Sony to court and get the Spider-Man rights as a whole taken away from Sony as a whole, and there's no way Sony would be able to win, Disney would clearly win because there's no way they would lose.
Splendid Pictures
Splendid Pictures Hace 5 meses
HAIL THE MOUSE!! HAIL THE MOUSE!! ALLEGIANCE TO THE BRAND!
Justin Wu
Justin Wu Hace 5 meses
Seriously, Sony will never want to share the production cost, this is like giving Disney ownership of Epidermal even though they don't own the character. From the looks of things, it feels more like Disney does not want Spiderman any more.
G.T.O. The Public Beta Test
G.T.O. The Public Beta Test Hace 5 meses
Oh, and Roxy went from being a gorgeous, smart, rising star with limitless potential, to the perpetually short-circuited village idiot of this mess. That alone is shameful. She could have been a star. A talented young woman has been brainwashed right before our eyes, and it’s heartbreaking.
G.T.O. The Public Beta Test
G.T.O. The Public Beta Test Hace 5 meses
1) Reilly is wrong again. Sony didn’t blame KF. They were very gracious and said Disney effectively took him off the table with their terms. 2) You’re ALL wrong, as Disney DID NOT leak the story. Sony did. And we know that because the Sony email hack revealed they’ve been using this very reporter at ‘Deadline’ to launder leaks for over a decade. He’s their go to guy for exactly this kind of thing. 3) I’m sure you’re wrong about more, but I’m only seven minutes in, and already exhausted, as you’ve quickly reminded me why you’re amongst the worst people in access media with the exception of Mr. Washington. Such potential wasted by identity politics and cancel-culture. You all had potential until you started walking on eggshells because you’re terrified and trying desperately to be “woke.” Newsflash-You’re not. No one is. It’s a scam. It’s literally impossible to be acceptably woke, because the rules change every five minutes, they never make sense, and usually contradict each other. You’re all buying into a divide and conquer tactic, and you’ve become nothing but useful idiots to those trying to destroy your way of life. May God have mercy on your souls.
KiLlACaMrOn94
KiLlACaMrOn94 Hace 6 meses
NOBODY was actually speaking in facts, only opinions smh
Jack O' Neill
Jack O' Neill Hace 6 meses
they ask for 25 not 50
Jose Moreno
Jose Moreno Hace 6 meses
This guy is all over the place👎
Finn Redmond
Finn Redmond Hace 6 meses
Sometimes a deal stops making sense no one is too blame marvel got Spider-Man and we were lucky we got that
Tihs Eht
Tihs Eht Hace 6 meses
Isnt this their jobs, lol i know sony offered 70/30 and i checked that was out day 1 so these guys are a joke talking about this shit. Get new jobs collider
Salieri Amadeus
Salieri Amadeus Hace 6 meses
The first Spider-Man grossed $821 millions in 2002. That is worth at least $1.3 Billion these days.
Salieri Amadeus
Salieri Amadeus Hace 6 meses
Adjusted for inflation, the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies grossed much more than the newest one because it sold so much more tickets.
Travis Mitchell
Travis Mitchell Hace 6 meses
25 seconds in: “We’re Talking about Spiderman right?....”
IgLazyAss
IgLazyAss Hace 6 meses
Is Roxy here just to rehash everything screen junkies/fandom already said?
ZomBee
ZomBee Hace 6 meses
Disney and Sony...work it out! Because if you don't Everyone loses!
Jason Rohatynchuk
Jason Rohatynchuk Hace 6 meses
Why the HELL do you think spiderman is such a weak character that he needs FUCKING MCU characters to hold his hand and for the movies in the future to be good? BOYS.....YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE REAL SPIDERMAN AND CLEARLY HAVE NEVER READ THE COMICS. WHHAAAAAAA go cry and jump om your bed with tom Holland to be a baby avenger....WHHAAAAAAAAAA. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!
Jason Rohatynchuk
Jason Rohatynchuk Hace 6 meses
WAKE UP!!!! SONY OWNS SPIDERMAN!!! Do they need the stink of the MCU on THERE property forever? Do we need MCU Characters in All spiderman movies? HELL NO!!! This whole bullshit Marvel spiderman SUCKS!!!!! AUNT MAY IS HOT? IRON MAN MAKES SUIT? NICK FURY AND AVENGERS? uhhhhhhh? THAT'S ENOUGH! Fire Tom Holland, Get the stink of the MCU off and MAKE SPIDERMAN COOL AGAIN!!!!!! Not a 14 year old BABY crying to be an avenger.
Amged Fraik
Amged Fraik Hace 6 meses
Sony did have a counteroffer Disney is to blame in this 🤦🏾‍♂️
xxo ea
xxo ea Hace 6 meses
Geeze with the f bomb
Imlivinlife27
Imlivinlife27 Hace 6 meses
Y’all don’t know a damn thing what a terrible video just delete it. I don’t have time write all this shit
Luciana Ontiveros Polo
Luciana Ontiveros Polo Hace 6 meses
Marvel and Disney 🙌🏼
agentcypher
agentcypher Hace 6 meses
This is all wrong Disney wanted a 25%/ 75% for Sony. Sony never returned a correspondence for 6 months. Eventually Disney came back and said 50. This situation falls on Tim Rothmans hands the man who destroyed fox studios.
Ronnet
Ronnet Hace 6 meses
Collider sure has gone hill. You guys haven't even read basic reports on the situation. How can out talk about this when you're so uninformed? It isn't as simple as a profit split. Dinsey wanted creative control over all of Sony's marvel properties. That's the straw that broke the camel's back.
Chief
Chief Hace 6 meses
Just when the x-men and fantastic 4 arrive in the mcu spidey leaves! WTF Was looking forward to spider-man and his amazing friends
serenityq26
serenityq26 Hace 6 meses
spiderman wasnt in the trailer. everyone doesnt know venom is tied to spiderman. no one said spiderman was going to be in venom. this guy: it only made 800 million cause people thought spider-man was going to be in it..........DUMB
serenityq26
serenityq26 Hace 6 meses
only ONE of "this iteration" of spiderman has made a billion. add up all the raimi spiderman films: more than the two holland did...........
serenityq26
serenityq26 Hace 6 meses
disney is always to blame. they are the 1% trying to get even more money from the 99%. they already get 100% of star wars, disney princesses/fairy tales, pixar, marvel and now they own fox but nope thats not enough "we want more money from spiderman" girl bye!
Nicholas Rustali
Nicholas Rustali Hace 6 meses
People seem to forget that spiderman is a marvel character
Sargento Capitão
Sargento Capitão Hace 6 meses
when you "bust your ass as a fan for years" just to see this happen
carolina29593
carolina29593 Hace 6 meses
researchers collider, who they???? lmao🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
BrianL
BrianL Hace 6 meses
So Sony paid for the rights to Spiderman but now should split box office and get $0 from merch? Does that make any sense? Even 70% would be a slap in the face.
uzak yolcu
uzak yolcu Hace 6 meses
disney is being greedy
radapox
radapox Hace 6 meses
Jesus you guys are useless. How is it I learned more from a nobody in a tweet than you guys?
Everything Cool
Everything Cool Hace 6 meses
Sony goes independent and Spiderman wakes up realising it was all a dream
Ced 2X Extended Play
Ced 2X Extended Play Hace 6 meses
1:50 Venom + Morbius. From John Campea channel: "Sony thought about 70/30 but Disney wanted 50/50 still."
Xrey
Xrey Hace 6 meses
I can’t believe beyond the trailers did better research then collider on this topic!
William Harrison
William Harrison Hace 6 meses
facts guys come on. thats a wrist slap.
biff butowski
biff butowski Hace 6 meses
Just nuke japan to destroy sony
Jeremy Shiner
Jeremy Shiner Hace 6 meses
Disney wants all the money
Understanding 77
Understanding 77 Hace 6 meses
Is she dumb ??🤤🤪🤨
Anthony Politis
Anthony Politis Hace 6 meses
He’s not going to report on Galaxy’s Edge guys
Clyde. J Garcia
Clyde. J Garcia Hace 6 meses
They not saying everything that went down between Sony and Disney.... This was Disney fault they were being extremely greedy
Phillip Truong
Phillip Truong Hace 6 meses
Well, Marvel is dead to be honest. Next phase does not even look that interesting. Sony can just walk away and they will be fine.
ironfae
ironfae Hace 6 meses
Now that the issue is over, who else is laughing at all these premature complaint videos? Lol
ZekromFusion
ZekromFusion Hace 6 meses
Umm but Sony did make a counter offer
Heretic001
Heretic001 Hace 6 meses
Disney is totalitarian. Sony makes bad movies. Take your pick.
Andrew Bullen
Andrew Bullen Hace 6 meses
Sony offered 30% --- this segment is garbage compared to Campea's videos
Owl Man
Owl Man Hace 6 meses
Sony did a counter offer though
Exodus 2020
Exodus 2020 Hace 6 meses
Pump your brakes marvel fans i hear that negotiations are back on the table so lets hope sony comes to there senses before we boycott everything that belongs to sony .
GenericGooner
GenericGooner Hace 6 meses
Disney wanted half. Half of 1.1bn leaves Sony with 550m. The least Sony have ever made form a Spider-Man movie is 700m Sony are a business. Accepting half is a TERRIBLE business decision.
Rory Fansler
Rory Fansler Hace 6 meses
Its not just about the money. its about IP rights. Disney wanted to pay for part of movie financing giving them partial control of the IP rights which ties Sonys hands forever to Disney. Also as others posted already Sony made counter offers for higher revenue %.
Renzzo Aguilar
Renzzo Aguilar Hace 6 meses
If Disney goes from 5% to 50% i would have done the same f@ck you Disney. You don't go from 5% to 50% in a negotiation. You may go from 5% to 20% tops.
Niyah
Niyah Hace 6 meses
Ok Sony...Just bring Tobey Maguire back.
faded_jayjay 585
faded_jayjay 585 Hace 6 meses
I hate disney 3000
Johnny Dutton
Johnny Dutton Hace 6 meses
Sad u guys have a bigger budget than one i will name, but dont get me wrong i like your shows but John Campea blows u guys awhile on info and explaining stuff. Get the info right, maybe call John and get the right details
El Dios
El Dios Hace 6 meses
I can solve this.. can’t believe it’s not been said yet..Disney gets spider-man in movies and Sony gets exclusives to all marvel games!?!?!? Simple! PlayStation only marvel gaming universe!
UberGameMasters
UberGameMasters Hace 6 meses
These are *excellent* points. But there is one more point, and I've been posting this everywhere this morning lol: I think the HUGE elephant in the room everyone is missing is that Sony is a foreign company. A Japanese company, trying to muscle in of American pop culture's intellectual property. -What "rights" do they have to that,.. really? Sorry, but we have to be stingy with our entertainment, it's one of our largest exports. • Honestly, I think if we (the gaming community) boycott all Sony products (i.e. Games, PS5, electronics, etc.) that'll make them think twice about their... _position._ -UGM
Peter Quill
Peter Quill Hace 6 meses
Wrong information... wrong wrong wrong
Jose Bautista-Garcia
Jose Bautista-Garcia Hace 6 meses
Lol roxy hey I’m with you I liked amazing Spider-Man 2 I own all the spider man movies.
Chris T
Chris T Hace 6 meses
Disney would’ve also gained 50% control of all spider man character movies including venom anyone who sided with Disney on this deal is kinda delusional.. and clearly doesn’t get how horrible financially that deal was
Brandon
Brandon Hace 6 meses
In the words of Nate Diaz “I’m not surprised mother fuckers” are people really that surprised. Everyone knew this was coming. Cmon.
MrChrisDanger
MrChrisDanger Hace 6 meses
WHAT About 30-35 % on SPIDEY MOVIES and 5% for the SONY Projects or let SONY something from the MCU spidey movies it´s a given and take not just take on both sides.
MrChrisDanger
MrChrisDanger Hace 6 meses
But to be honest without DISNEY I am deeply worried for the good sake of our beloved SPIDEY. THIS MORONS should find a way between 32-36% but understandable it´s arguable if it would have been good or bad if DISNEY would have behind those SONY Projects (or was it only hope to get those characters as well into the MCU)?????
MrChrisDanger
MrChrisDanger Hace 6 meses
but when it´s true DISNEY wanted to get 50% Profits of non-mcu SONY SPIDERVERSE MOVIES and that´s INSANE ask that DISNEY wants not only 50% of Spideyfilms but also from the others is CRAZY it´s DISNEY FAULT to not except 30% on spidey movies the non MCU ones are not DISNEY´S Business and we the fans are the losers on that CRAP.
MrChrisDanger
MrChrisDanger Hace 6 meses
it´s arguable if SONY could make it 35% to 65% BUT only FOR THE SINGLE MOVIES AND MCU APPEARANCES the other SONY Movies doesn´t belong to DISNEY HOW DARE and NUTS to ask for MONEY even when they would have CO-FINANCED those.
Topher
Topher Hace 6 meses
I had a thought recently, yes it hurt. But, Marvel Studios and most of the fans want to keep Spiderman in the MCU. Sony want a good solid franchise under their belt that they can earn max profit from, which includes merchandise, films, etc... So, why not try and do a even 100% trade on Star Wars for Spiderman and all characters associated. What is everyones thoughts?
Topher
Topher Hace 6 meses
I had a thought recently, yes it hurt. But, Marvel Studios and most of the fans want to keep Spiderman in the MCU. Sony want a good solid franchise under their belt that they can earn max profit from, which includes merchandise, films, etc... So, why not try and do a even 100% trade on Star Wars for Spiderman and all characters associated. What is everyones thoughts?
Ryan Kirk
Ryan Kirk Hace 6 meses
Apparently Tom Holland unfollowd Sony on IG._
Dylan Todd
Dylan Todd Hace 6 meses
Not sure if this is incomplete reporting or this was posted before the complete picture of the Disney demand was disclosed.
Tony Cockerham
Tony Cockerham Hace 6 meses
Hey Yall! I still think that Kevin Feige will get this deal done because his track record is just too good when it comes to him getting what he wants. Kevin Feige's Track Record: When the 1st X-Men movie came out, producers and directors didn't wanna make Wolverine's hair the same way it was in the comic books..but it was Kevin Feige who told them to do it because he was a producer on that 1st X-Men movie. He wanted Marvel Studios to be its own independent entity when his boss, at the time, didn't want to spend the money to make these movies great .. he got it. He wanted to create his own Cinematic Universe..he got it. (And made over $20B in 10 years) Fox couldn't do right with the Marvel Characters and although it cost almost $70B, Kevin Feige was able to get Disney to buy all the characters back to Marvel!! Disney fired James Gunn over some bull..yet, Kevin Feige got James Gunn back to direct GOTG 3! Spider-Man was in a mess with Sony and needed a revival, Kevin Feige got the deal done with Sony..he appeared in Civil War, Homecoming, Infinity War, EndGame, then Far From Home..and now the MCU has credit for giving the world the highest grossing Spider-Man movie ever!! If for nothing else, Marvel Studios will get Spidey back to complete this trilogy! Needless to say, I believe that Kevin Feige will get this thing done!! What do you think!?
Makario Santiaguero Jaramillo
Makario Santiaguero Jaramillo Hace 6 meses
sonys stock took $20 hit lol.
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